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PRIVACY Forum Digest     Thursday, 3 July 2003     Volume 12 : Issue 01

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            Moderated by Lauren Weinstein (         
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        PRIVACY Forum Digest Update and Administrivia
           (Lauren Weinstein; PRIVACY Forum Moderator)

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The Internet PRIVACY Forum is a moderated digest for the discussion and
analysis of issues relating to the general topic of privacy (both personal
and collective) in the "information age" of the 1990's and beyond.  The
moderator will choose submissions for inclusion based on their relevance and
content.  Submissions will not be routinely acknowledged.

All submissions should be addressed to "" and must have
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individual authors and all messages submitted must be appropriate to be
distributed and archived without limitations. 

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Date:    Thu, 03 Jul 2003 20:25:08 PDT
From: (Lauren Weinstein; PRIVACY Forum Moderator)
Subject: PRIVACY Forum Digest Update and Administrivia

Greetings.  It's been quite a spell since my last PRIVACY Forum Digest,
so this issue will be primarily a quick administrative update.  Never fear,
with your cooperation we'll be back to grinding our way into depressing 
privacy nightmares here in the digest in no time.  Needless to
say, as the U.S. and the rest of the world enthusiastically embraces
anti-privacy, anti-civil-liberties concepts that would spin George
Orwell's head, there's plenty to talk about.

This message will also serve to help remove obsolete addresses off the
mailing list, as well as delete those using anti-spam challenge-response
systems against this mailing.  I'm very much opposed to spam, but it is
impossible to manually deal with challenge-response systems with these large
mailing lists -- a position being taken by most operators of major Internet
digests and lists.  Challenge-response is not a cure for spam, rather, it is
a disease unto itself.  But I digress.

While the digest itself has been on something of a hiatus, the PRIVACY Forum
has not.  Responses to queries, research, writing, analysis, and other
privacy-related work have been continuing unabated, with much 
displayed in other venues.

If you'd like to catch up with some of this, there are a number of avenues
to explore where I've presented privacy-oriented materials during the
preceding interval, a few of which include:

  - PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility
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  - "Reality Reset" Commentary and Satire Columns
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  - "Fact Squad Radio" Commentaries
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  - "Wired News" Commentaries
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Also, you are most cordially invited (and urged) to participate in the new
PFIR Forums discussion groups, which feature a "Civil Liberties vs.
Technology" topic area -- of course including privacy issues.  The PFIR
Forums board has only been operational for a few days and is largely a
clean slate, so your participation is vital if useful contributions to the
ongoing debates on these issues are to result.  Please get involved at:

If you tend to stay up late at night and aren't otherwise usefully engaged,
you might wish to tune in to the popular "Coast to Coast AM" network radio
show this coming Wednesday night (9 July), when I'm currently scheduled as
the show's guest from 11 PM to 2 AM (Pacific Daylight Time).  I'll be
discussing a wide range of privacy issues that will hopefully be upsetting
enough to keep everyone awake.  The show is available on local radio
throughout the U.S. and through an online service.  
Local station lists are at:

The purpose of the PRIVACY Forum Digest remains the same as it has been
since I created it more than eleven (!) years ago.  It's a place for
selected, thoughtful discussion of important privacy issues -- this depends
on your input.  A primary reason that I deemphasized the digest recently
is that reader input had largely migrated toward people forwarding me
clippings from other sources, rather than their own thoughts and writings.  
The PRIVACY Forum Digest has never been and is not a clipping reprint
service -- that's not what the digest is for.  

Another problem is that increasing numbers of persons demanded that their
messages be published anonymously if at all -- simply to avoid spam.  I dare
say I get more spam than most people.  While I actively and publicly fight
against spam, and though there are some circumstances where anonymity in the
digest can be justified, I do not consider fear of spam to be one of them.
The digest operates in the model of a professional journal and that means
standing up for your opinions in the vast majority of circumstances.

I think that about brings administrative matters up to date!

Your submissions for digest consideration on privacy issues are again
solicited via: -- and please do remember to
check out PFIR Forums in your copious spare time!

All the best to you and yours.

Lauren Weinstein or or
Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800
Co-Founder, PFIR - People For Internet Responsibility -
Co-Founder, Fact Squad -
Co-Founder, URIICA - Union for Representative International Internet
                     Cooperation and Analysis -
Moderator, PRIVACY Forum -
Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy


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